'New Newsvine' Needs Beta Testers

I saw, I got it, I smiled!

What type of fish?

A <*BETA><

one fish, two fish, red fish, beta fish....

I'd like to nominate Global777.

Tyler, what does a beta user do? I will participate, but I need to know what I will need to do as a beta tester. Also, I am going to have surgery at the end of Feb. 2012 ans will be gone for about a week to 10 days.

:)

Neale Osborn, Space Guy, Kavika and Jazzman646

I nominate:

Carloz

MJL-3

Halifax Oliver

JM California

Sir Richard Owen

CL1

I nominate

vol fan in chatt, tn,

Ron W.-1891955

tomwcraig

Abby.

AZPADDY AND PAT N for sure!

They are excellent, intelligent viners with strong passion.

Tyler, since this article is about a "NEW NEWSVINE", I feel okay in asking:

Is there a mobile version of the Vine and if not, is there one in the works. I'm on the go a lot and I find, even with my Android, that the Vine is not very mobile friendly. So is it me and my phone or what?

Just curious and thanks for allowing me to throw that out there. Didn't mean to go kind of off topic, I just figured since we're talking a new vine here, it was a relevant question.

Have you tried

http://www.newsvine.mobi/

Didn't know there was one which brought on my question SRO. Is there an app one can download? I have an HTC Desire Android on US Cellular?

I would certainly enjoy an app-- I have a Samsung Gravity phone. :-)

See I didn't know there was a Newsvine Mobile, I just hope there's an Android App available. It is really kinda hard to navigate the regular site on my phone.

The mobile one I just can't figure out, it seems like it is only for reading, you can't sign in? The regular version on my phone has some kind of weird kink. It won't let me use the touch keyboard, I have to use the slide-out one, but then it doesn't give me a cursor, so its basically a crap-shoot. I don't really care to be honest, I'm not complaining about it, I've never much cared for these types of sites on a phone. Then again, I've always been a little behind the times with these damn things... I definitely prefer the ease of a computer.

There's not on app. On my iPhone, I can type if I switch to "XHTML Mode" instead of "Easy Mode."

Of course, if we're shooting for the moon, maybe it's time to dust off this feature request (from a "few" years ago). :)

Is there an app one can download?

Elefino. I got TracFone.

The regular version on my phone has some kind of weird kink. It won't let me use the touch keyboard, I have to use the slide-out one, but then it doesn't give me a cursor, so its basically a crap-shoot

EXACTLY!!!!!

And what Spiffie said is true for my Droid also, I have to be in HTML mode, but it jumps all over the place on me, it's like it's unstable or something.

Tyler is this beta going to be different from the last? I've had the "beta column" for what feels like 3 years now... and haven't heard anything in way of updates. Played with the code and column to as much as it will allow it seems. That being said I've had fun with it and would like to continue in participating in the Newsvine's Beta stuff.

Can you put my name in the hat if it isn't in there already? :D

Oh and I just noticed my column is messed up on my recent articles posting. Blowing up my page instead of just having a few sentence preview. That's a new bug I haven't seen....

Oh and I just noticed my column is messed up on my recent articles posting. Blowing up my page instead of just having a few sentence preview. That's a new bug I haven't seen....

There's this button, called "Mark end of excerpt," on the Write Article pages. I never have figured out what the hell it does...

I HOPE that you will have something in place which will totally separate the MSNBC and Today threads from everything else. I avoid those like the plague and just about anyone who is seriously interested in "getting smarter here" does as well.

I'll give that a try. Just was never an issue before. :D

Narration by Tyler. The marvels of modern technology.

Adobe Captivate is a great app, for creating tutorials.

I've been developing, on the Web, for 17 years. I never cease to get excited about how we utilize the latest technology.

User customization would be very welcome, especially with regards to our Home Page.

I'd nominate Rottlady, Red Wolf, Lauhal, of course. Also 800 lb gorilla, Dennis P McCann. I'll think about others.

Who you calling an 800 lb gorilla?

Tyler,

can we nominate amosnandy and drifty to test out the anti rereg feature?

(yes, that WAS a joke, please take it as such).

As mentioned, newsvine.mobi exists, but it's not full-featured, and there's no app in the works. Mobile developers around here are working on updates to Breaking News apps. Newsvine is still going to be a site that lends itself to long involved discussions and the laptop/desktop/thing-with-a-keyboard experience is prioritized.

I've used it on my iPad and while I can type in my comment the post button doesn't seem to work. That's the only think I need for the mobile version to work. The current mobile interface looks like it's 1/2 way done which is worse than not being done at all. It would be nice to just to be able to turn it off.

I was actually able to post here on my Kindle once when I lost wifi for my laptop, but the pan and scan made the effort mostly worthless.

it does work fine with an iPad but that is different from a phone.

it does work fine with an iPad but that is different from a phone.

For some reason the Post Comment button doesn't work for me.

I am excited to see the new features even if only as a spectator.

Switching to XHTML also usually works if you get the sorry-can't-post-this message when working on a computer. Click XHTML and it usually goes right through, even on the bubblegum messages. Now I guess I need to log in on my phone and try it, I've read on the phone but never tried posting.

Well Tyler thanks for the in depth explanation. I do like to keep up, but I can always have my laptop with me and will probably resort to that instead.

Again thanks for the info!

On an android phone and it didn't recognize that it was a tryping window till I changed to XHTML, interesting. forgot to check if it automatically kicked me over to the mobil version though, some sites do and others don't but this looks like the regular web version.

Edit, and then I can sneak in and still edit it on my computer. It was the regular web version, not mobi, but I can scoot things around pretty well with my thumb and spread what I want to read with my fingertips to see it pretty comfortably.

stally - I've used it on my iPad and while I can type in my comment the post button doesn't seem to work. That's the only think I need for the mobile version to work

I post on my iPad all the time, and at first I had the same problem. As soon as I used the "use XHTML Mode instead" it works great from there just doesn't check my horrible spelling!;) Also I stay signed in, on both my iPad and my computer, and it remembers the setting on both (XHTML=iPad; Easy Mode=PC) so I don't have to switch back and forth!

Hope that helps

Cat

Trying in XHTML mode now, but then you'll really see how bad I spell. If you're seeing this it worked and thanks!

Glad to be of service. ;-)

Ahh haaaa!

Glad to be of service. ;-)

I swear I tried that before and it didn't work! I think Tyler fixed it just to spite me ;)

Thanks for the nomination Runner99 ... #1.12

and ... to Tyler ... I would be honored to participate in such an endeavor. However I would want to know if the New Newsvine would be a more congenial place disallowing "Grenade Seeding" and the submission of articles meant only to incite and inflame others such as is currently allowed on the regular vine.

I only ask because even some who are nominated are infamous for seeding articles much of the time for incitement purposes only with little redeeming value other than to cause dissention and strife.

I apologize if I am off topic with the question. I was just wondering.

Runner,
You're a darlin', but I don't think I'd be qualified for such a role.
Your nomination has made me feel really good though, & for that, I give you my heartfelt thanks.
*hugs*
:D

Ron W / tyler

I think the current guidlines are fine regarding seeding or writing articles. What's inflammatory or inciting to you may not be so to others. I can see the politics segment dwindle to almost nothing, under a format that would preclude what you might consider inflammatory.

As it stands now, if you think an article is meant only to incite or inflame, nothing says you have to read it or comment on it. Vote with your feet.

I'll nominate A. Macarthur ,Ben Jos…, rottlady,HollyKl,

Global777

I'm a little confused.. Genetic condition ,sorry Is the New Newsvine going to replace this Newsvine or be a whole new entity? Geeez That was a lot of "news"

I would want to know if the New Newsvine would be a more congenial place

That's the idea.

Hmm seems like my BI polar NV persona/ A guy who likes to poke ugly things with sticks sometimes could be put out to pasture... Any rubber rooms In the New NV?

Global777 I second that too.

G. Bud, #1.57

Is the New Newsvine going to replace this Newsvine or be a whole new entity?

I think if were to be a whole new entity with roughly the same rules / guidelines, the effort would be useless.

I initially was wondering about that myself. I'd like to see a "New Newsvine" that is by invitation only. THAT would spark a clamoring for inductees that would make this article seem very small by comparison. It also would be boring beyond description. Can you imagine hundreds of comments from the same people....Ad Nauseum?? WAIT!! Don't answer that!!

Too bad we can't have NV 1 and 2. Of course this would be 1. It wouldn't be fair if all the viners here didn't get invited to the new one. But I don't know how the beta thing worked in the begining of this NV.

I would imagine almost all policy is in place, the software would have had to have been written so as to accomodate it. If I understand beta, it's just the shakedown cruise, where you roust out the bugs.

Yeah Your probably right AZ. I kind of stumbled on this article and didn't read anything else except what was written above. I guess my question was sort of a stupid one after thinking about it.

G. Bud

. I guess my question was sort of a stupid one after thinking about it.

There ARE no stupid questions when asking about Newsvine, in my opinion. By nature, Newsvine seems to generate lots of questions!

:))))

Can you imagine hundreds of comments from the same people....Ad Nauseum??

AZ, when I was a new Viner, I thought over-commenting was what they meant as a "troll" since I had never heard that word used on the internet. So, I went to the site rules looking for instructions on how many comments we were allowed on each column. LOL

CL1

. So, I went to the site rules looking for instructions on how many comments we were allowed on each column. LOL

Hey! Maybe you've hit on a much needed new rule, for existing Newsvine. If it's not your article, the limit is oh....say.....15 comments. Sounds reasonble to me. After all, after a certain number, we ARE just trolling!

The New Newsvine could be unlimited comments.

Not that the NNV will have changed this, but I'm annoyed by the conspiracy articles that are posted ad nauseum by a couple of viners. They're off the wall, and have a certain entertainment value, but they (the articles and the offending posters) should be able to be tagged by the community as non-factual. It really garbages up the science and tech category.

Conspiracy articles in Science and Tech? You must be saying that you want to see a tag such as "science fiction" or "satire" accompanying an original article that doesn't include 'proven' data/links?

What? You don't like tabloid Tammy and Todd writing articles from the stellar information they've gleaned while standing in line at the grocery check out, sky dog. Why that's got to be factual information or it wouldn't be displayed so prominently. LOL

Yeah, very hard to pin down what is totally off the wall junk science from whatever is just above that ranking. I'm not talking satire or science fiction (in the literary sense), but rather pop conspiracy theories, like, say, chemtrails. Not that it would even disincentivize the seeder, but it would let everyone else know it is just another fringe article, easily bypassed for something else more substantial and interesting.

on edit: js, something like that. A "tabloid" tab.

like, say, chemtrails.

Ok, now I see what you mean. There weren't any examples that came to mind for me, in science and tech, originally. (That example is interesting to me, as I hadn't thought it to be a "conspiracy theory." :)

Not that it would even disincentivize the seeder, but it would let everyone else know it is just another fringe article, easily bypassed for something else more substantial and interesting.

In theory that is a good idea . But it would need enforcement . Who could be relied upon to have that much knowledge and perspective ?

It wouldn't be fair if all the viners here didn't get invited to the new one. But I don't know how the beta thing worked in the begining of this NV.

The alpha, when they built the framework, was from March-December 2005. In December it went to beta, and they invited people to test it. In March of 2006 it went live, and opened to the public. That was the first release. In 2007 they redesigned it, which would be Newsvine 2, known as Evergreen. This new one will be the third public version.

In theory that is a good idea . But it would need enforcement . Who could be relied upon to have that much knowledge and perspective ?

No one person. It might be part of the dropdown tag list, like "inflammatory". If a certain percentage of commenters vote it "tabloid", then that label would be attached in front of the article title, and all places the article is listed, such as the home page. Some algorithm for hysteresis added in. I'm sure this idea would need further refinement before it would be road ready. just imagining.

It might be part of the dropdown tag list, like "inflammatory". If a certain percentage of commenters vote it "tabloid", then that label would be attached in front of the article title, and all places the article is listed

I can think of one subject matter where that approach would be abused in a major way . The subject of AGW would have a never ending stream of abuses .

The alpha, when they built the framework, was from March-December 2005. In December it went to beta, and they invited people to test it. In March of 2006 it went live, and opened to the public. That was the first release. In 2007 they redesigned it, which would be Newsvine 2, known as Evergreen. This new one will be the third public version.

Now I understand the process more. What happened to Evergreen? Is it now known as the current NV? Was it like a working title, Evergreen? When some people write book and movies, they'll give it a working title.

Good point, nSZ, it probably would happen. Some see conspiracy in that topic; I never have as there are valid/proven points to be made on both sides.

Yep, there are some categories that are almost tabloid by their definition (politics, anyone?). This critique would only apply to articles that are listed with any tag that would denote 'hard knowledge', like science. Otherwise, the option would not be active.

sky dog ,

If you're going by tags it might just work . I'm going to look at that some more .

Not that the NNV will have changed this, but I'm annoyed by the conspiracy articles that are posted ad nauseum by a couple of viners

Whoa, wait a minute sky dog!

Wait just one gosh durn minute!

Surely you're not gullible enough to believe that al Qaeda was actually behind 911 are you?

Surely you must be intelligent enough to realize that fire can't melt steel girders?

And what about..the infamous...Building 7!!!

OMG-- Building 7! Oh-- the horror!

All the loyal patriotic workers who found sticks of dynamite there?

All the "one percenters'' on Wall Street who placed options on American Airline stock before the attack??

Any one with half a brain knows that the accusations against al Qaeda are just a dumb conspiracy theory invented by Bush (or was it "da Joos"?..in fact, "Jooish, Apartheid, Gay-Mossadnick , Matza-eating, Sneaky-JDL-terrorist, Freemason-Palestinian-Land-stealing, Islamophobic, Talmud-reading, Lehi, NAACP member, Shylock, Zionazi, Organ-stealing, Illuminati-Bilderbergs"? With really, really, big Jewish noses no less!!!)

P.S: The Lunar landing was also a hoax-- by the above mentioned groups!!

Never happened....however, "contrails" really are a plot by Obama (whom "everybody" knows is actually a secret Muslim who is not even a US citizen!!!)-- contrails rea Zionist plot to control our minds and bodies...but of course the government is covering that up as well)

[Do I really need a "sarcasm tag" here...lol :^]

I'm not talking satire or science fiction (in the literary sense), but rather pop conspiracy theories, like, say, chemtrails.

Are you sure that those are a hoax? How about the government secretly putting things in our water? I'm not really sure about them-- but after reading some of these articles I'm wondering if at least the Chemtrails might be very very real?

Chemtrails: Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up (amazing photos: these aren't planes!)

What in the world are they spraying?

Rainbow-Sprinkler Conspiracy

You forgot about HAARP and the weather control, mind control expiriments they are doing. Get your tin foil hat on now!!! (Some assembly required)

Never happened....

Whew!

Well thank goodness the unicorn thread wasn't ratted out. :-)

Egads!

Seems I icepicked a nerve. I'm must not be the only one annoyed at the lunacy press. Started out, I'd try to 'edjicate,' now I just avoid them like trash on the road. Be nice to have a labeling system, so I know when to dodge. Save the time. Good for NV's reputation, too.

But don't horn in on my unicorns. &-|

thanks krishna, mj & PP. Takes a bit these days to make me smile.

Hey, you guys, don't forget DARPA!

sky dog, I've gotta admit I don't seed those articles due to an ounce or two of skepticism, yet the links (which I know could be fabricated) seem so credible, especially when they are sponsored by NASA (or is that a dead give-away that are NOT real??)

Don't forget, Elvis is really alive/sarc

Be nice to have a labeling system, so I know when to dodge.

I find the headlines are usually enough. But, yes, some do sneak through.

Don't forget, Elvis is really alive/sarc

Of course he is. He's hiding in a North Ontario town. Neil Young even wrote a song about it - "Helpless".

Don't forget, Elvis is really alive/sarc

Of course he is. He's hiding in a North Ontario town. Neil Young even wrote a song about it - "Helpless".

Actually there's someone on NV (of course I won't that person's name) whom i suspect is a re-reg of Elvis!

(of course I won't that person's name)

Thank yuh. Thank yuh very much.

Egads!

What happened to the Bush Internment Camps being set up all over the U.S.? I wanted to get my reservation in for Hawaii before everything was all booked up and martial law was declared....wait, I work for the Military, so that means I don't have to go.....nevermind.

Just don't pull a Duke Nukem Forever!

We won't lose content will we? Please let us know if stuff transfers. My diary isn't backed up.

You're my hero!

You forgot about HAARP and the weather control, mind control expiriments they are doing. Get your tin foil hat on now!!! (Some assembly required)

mightyj-- I think one of the reasons that millions of people are dying every minute from these conspiracies is that they are under the illusion that these protective hats are very difficult to construct.

That they are even more difficult to find-- and very few stores even carry them!

However, such is not the case, Do not fear.- Help is on the way. Just check out some of these pages: An effective, low cost solution to combatting mind control

Thank you Krishna, I don't need one but I am going to get one for my dog.

Thank you Krishna, I don't need one but I am going to get one for my dog.

Dogs are people too!

(Also cats).

meow

I see some suggestions have been offered in this sub-thread, so if I may;

• Change link text from underlined bold to underlined light face in color (green would be good).
• Add caption bar to photos posted in seeded articles.
• Enable ability to delete/change photos in seeded articles once posted.
• Enable ability to add more than one photo to seeded articles.
• Provide ability for author/seeder to check comment as read w/o voting up comment.
• Add toolbar w/spellchecker to "Contact Us" and "Contact this author" boxes.
• Add avatar of writer to comments posted.
• Provide link back to published articles after they have been edited.

It would be good if some of these changes could be made on this existing version, while we're waiting for the "New Newsvine" to be rolled out.

Would this be a good idea? The very deserving viners who have earned a RAV should be given more "everyday" recognition than only seeing the full vine on their column. On comments, guides have a colour, and now I see a compass. Perhaps a full vine could show on the comments of RAV recipients.

The very deserving viners who have earned a RAV should be given more "everyday" recognition than only seeing the full vine on their column.

This is a very good idea that has been previously suggested. Hopefully they will incorporate it in the "New Newsvine".

Have you tried

http://www.newsvine.mobi/

Yeah , it sucks.

There is a reason why I'm not on HuffPo - their mobile site is so lobotomized that it is a waste of my time since I surf most of the time on my android. The regular newsvine on my droid works fine for everything but posting a comment and I'll get that worked out when I figure out why the android browser hates the little html buttons so much. (read article doesn't appear, but works if you hit the spot where it would be - I haven't gotten the post comment button to appear or work the same way)

I don't spend $70 a month for a full featured smartphone so I can sit at the damn kiddie table.

I nominate belle42 and Rachhel1-933952

Bad Fish, you're sweet -- you're my BFF, Bad Fish Forever :)

BFF, sometimes, Best Bad Fish, always!

Bad Fish-- what type of fish are you?

Are you a <*BETA> by any chance? :-)

(If so-- you should go to the head of the list!)

Second Belle's Nomination.

Dear Tyler,

I like the ideas you have on both of your articles. Especially the Beta noms, but...

That sounds "fishy"....I mean Beta fishy....or you know what I mean. Just saying

I think it sounds good, Beta nominations, ummmm I'm thinking of some now.

BRB

Dear Tyler,

I would like to nominate Elaine-1503791:

I nominate jumpshotjarrod, LordFluffy, Proud Pagan , Robert Bartholomew, Dennis P McCann

I second all of RAC 0129's nominations.

I nominate js-445607.

She is smart, well-tempered, has a great personality, is a fantastic writer, loves the honorable President Mr. Barack Obama, and has the Newsvine experience and time necessary to devote to beta testing. I know she has been nominated in other comments, I just wanted to make sure she also made it into the #2 thread per Tyler's instruction in the article.

Sorry, I missed the part about nominating in Comment 2. So, I nominate

Neale Osborn, Space Guy, Kavika and Jazzman646

Sir Richard Owen, Pat N, Dennis McCann, MJL, AZPaddy, GrumpinNM, Enoch, Grisham, Hecate's Daughter, Dowser. Sorry, its a lot, but these people all have added a lot to my experience here, and I think it covers a good spectrum.

I second Elaine-1503791.

Halifax Oliver... Gotta go with your list. Would have made the same one. Seconded!

mrsrachelm, Rachel 1, NorthernGirl, Boudicea, Marshall James and Citizen Kane. All good contributors that want to see this site grow and flourish.

I second or third or fourth or what ever it is up to now Pat N.

I'm thinkin' someone needs to nominate Runner99, too. And we need some seconds and thirds on that nomination. ☺

Also, vol fan in chatt, tn

Runner and Vol are both fair, fun to read and insightful.

Pat N, Runner99, Jazzman646, vol fan in chatt, tn, and tomwcraig.

Why thank you Global. Tyler? Write down Global, too.

I hope you have as many spots available as you alluded to. Some really good people are being nominated.

Oh. lisaed, too.

Belle,

I certainly hope you don't smell like bad fish, that would just totally ruin your reputation.

Thank you RAC 0129. :-)

Will anyone nominate me?! I've had some experience on beta stuff here with those new columns that came out forever ago. :P

I officially nominate Simplistic Reality because he really really really wants to participate.

Pretty please.

I officially add my vote for Simplistic Reality!

Simplistic, Elaine, and Pat N have my vote...as do any of the people 2.15 and 2.18...as for me, beta fish scare me...don't they fight? Oh wait, is that the analogy? Anyway, Lisaed is a good one and jxygillis (otherwise known as Jack). I don't know too many fish on the other side of the tank...sorry.

I agree with all of RAC 0129's nominations, especially Proud Pagan and Dennis McCann. I also would like to add Grisham, bonos_rama, and Loretta Kemsley to the list!

(And I deeply thank you, Halifax, but I must decline the nomination based on my lack of experience.)

:) HD

HD- Great nominations.

I nominate Mrs D

How could anyone forget Simplistic Reality? +1

know they're mostly mentioned elsewhere, but:

McSpocky. Soph0571, spiffie, bonos_rama, Loretta Kemsley, Dennis P McCann,

I know there are others, but I cannot think of them at this time. I may not like their opinions always, and sometimes I disagree, but I respect their opinions/seeds/articles. Some have already been nominated, but I'm throwing in my voice too.

Damn it! Im always late to the party. I would like to add Greg, Freewill, Socrates, and Tesla. Most of the other people that have been nominated already would have made my list, so a HELL YA! for them too. For those who were nominated that wouldnt have made my list, someone else thought you would be a good choice, so I say HELL YA! for you also.

I nominate:

js-445607... JM California .... John Galt-1207820 .... HydeWhyte.. krishna167929....oldtincan...maddad...cobaltblue-1847191.....keith in DSM....TonyWlliams .. FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS.....Jimmy the Goon.......grump in NM.......Mrs D1475814....Defense Counsel....& last but not least....Dr. Reid

Thank you HD. :-)

For a true test, it should be a random selection of users to find the "kinks and bugs"

Haven't seen Ben Josephs - may have missed it but he should be top of anyone's list.

AL,

No, random selection of users is just going to randomly detect 'kinks and bugs'.

I'm good with Elaine, Runner, belle, Soph, Mrs. D, Pat N and Northern Girl. Oh, Vlad's Dog and mightyj, too.

Well if I'm chosen, someone has to debug me first. I've been "bugged" for over 6 months.

hmm...where's my can of Raid to de-bug you

When are you planning on making your final picks for the testers and how will you be notifying them?

new group functionality

*Ben's ears perk*

I dont think i see Scott (Scoop) Butki, I'd like to nominate him, most everyone else I would have mentioned already is up.

*crosses fingers* !

In no particular order, and knowing full well I'm too tired to remember everyone who should be on this list:

storyartist, Dennis McCann, McSpocky, js-445607, bonos_rama, keith in DSM, Physicist Retired, Carloz, redsfan, Grae, DocPhil, GRISHAM, Dowser.

Thanks, CrowMeris.

I nominate: MeanGene-3334839

• Professional communications engineer.
• Well-versed and highly opinionated on a wide variety of topics.

I'll second that. MeanGene-3334839

Yes

And MeanGene,isn't really mean either!

[Sorry MG, I let the cat out of the bag :P]

I got to Thread #47 weeding out dupes, and making names with links to make it easier for Tyler. If you don't see your nominee on this list, add it in a comment, IN THIS THREAD with a link to the person's column.

A. Macarthur

• Nominated by rottlady @ #24

A Veteran

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Abby.

• Nominated by bethcat @ #11.13

Artie-3438207

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

aRTieA

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Augur Well

• Nominated by lauhal @ #7

AZPADDY

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Bad Fish

• Nominated by krishna-167929 @ #2.4

belle42

• Nominated by Bad Fish @ #2.1

Ben Josephs

• Nominated by RAC 0129 @ #2.34

bitemore

• Nominated by neenie1991 @ #10.3

BK Lim

• Nominated by lauhal @ #12

bonos_rama

• Nominated by Hecate's Daughter @ #2.26

bore-head007

• Nominated by TR-421173 @ #10.1

Boudicea

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.15

Carloz

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

Charlie Courtois

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

chouchou

• Nominated by bethcat @ #11.13

Citizen Kane-473667

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.15

CL1

• Nominated by MJL-3 @ #24.2

cobaltblue-1847191

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Dare To Hope

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Defense Counsel

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Dennis P McCann

• Nominate by RAC 0129 @ #2.8, Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

DocPhil

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

Dowser

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Dr. Reid

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Dubbya R

• Nominated by rottlady @ #24

Elaine-1503791

• Nominated by Therese Nelson @ #2.7, Runner99 @ #2.13

Enoch-2699399

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

ERich-356044

• Nominated by lauhal @ #15

etva

• Nominated by neenie1991 @ #10.3

FlNutmegger

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Fletch-495299

• Nominated by bore-head007 @ #16

Freewill

• Nominated by northern girl @ #2.30

FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Global777

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.19

Grae

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

greg-709692

• Nominated by northern girl @ #2.30

Grisham

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

grump in NM

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Hecate's Daughter

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

HollyKI

• Nominated by rottlady @ #24

HydeWhyte

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Ian F Walter

Nominated by Proud Pagan @ #25.8

IDFeb89

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

jazzman646

• Nominated by Lee-479062 @ #2.11

Jerry Verlinger

• Nominated by bore-head007 @ #15.2

jfxgillis

• Nominated by vol fan in chatt, tn @ #2.25

Jimmy the Goon

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

JM California

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

John Galt-1207820

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

jumpshotjarrod

• Nominate by RAC 0129 @ #2.8

js-445607

• Nominated by HydeWhyte @ #2.10

katrix

• Nominated by neenie1991 @ #10.3

Kavika

• Nominated by Lee-479062 @ #2.11

keith in DSM

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

lisaed

• Nominated by vol fan in chatt, tn @ #2.25

LordFluffy

• Nominated by RAC 0129 @ #2.8

Loretta Kemsley

• Nominated by Hecate's Daughter @ #2.26

maddad

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

MalamuteMan

• Nominated by rottlady @ #24

Marine24

• Nominated by bethcat @ #11.13

Marshall James

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.15

Matt Rock

• Nominated by Soph0571 @ #21

McSpocky

• Nominated by cried @ #2.29

MD/MI

• Nominated by Thankful Mom-3182614 @ #24.3

MeanGene-3334839

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #2.48

Michael (Astronomy.FM)

• Nominated by Monkey@Keyboard @ #19

Michael Sautter

• Nominated by lauhal @ #8

mightyj

• Nominated by Boudicea @ #2.36

MJL-3

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Mrs D-1475814

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

mrsrachelm

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.15

Ms CYPRAH

• Nominated by WTF-Really #47

MWeaver

• Nominated by Soph0571 @ #21

Neale Osborn

• Nominated by Lee-479062 @ #2.11

Nick Milligan

• Nominated by tyler @ #2

northern girl

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.15

oldtincan

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

Open Range

• Nominated by Thankful Mom-3182614 @ #24.3

Pat N

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Paul William Tenny

• Nominated by lauhal @ #13

PeaceBlessing

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Physicist-retired

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

Piletre

• Nominated by JM California @ #3.6

Proud Pagan

• Nominated by RAC 0129 @ #2.8

RACHEL1-933952

• Nominated by Bad Fish @ #2.1, Pat N @ #2.15

redsfan

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

Robert Bartholomew

• Nominated by RAC 0129 @ #2.8

rottlady

• Nominated by bethcat @ #11.13

Runner99

• Nominated by Global777 @ #2.18

Sarah-3043284

• Nominated by Monkey@Keyboard @ #19

Scott (Scoop) Butki

• Nominated by lastone @ #2.42

Shannoscubie

• Nominated by neenie1991 @ #10.3

Simplistic Reality

• Nominated by JM California @ #2.23

Sir Richard Owen

• Nominated by Halifax Oliver @ #2.12

Socrates1

• Nominated by northern girl @ #2.30

Soph0571

• Nominated by cried @ #2.29

space guy

• Nominated by Lee-479062 @ #2.11

spiffie

• Nominated by cried @ #2.29

storyartist

• Nominated by CrowMeris @ #2.46

tesla013

• Nominated by northern girl @ #2.30

tomwcraig

• Nominated by Global777 @ #2.18

TonyWlliams

• Nominated by RhondaRebecca @ #2.31

VerbalBarb

• Nominated by neenie1991 @ #10.3

Vlad's dog

• Nominated by Boudicea @ #2.36

vol fan in chatt, tn

• Nominated by Pat N @ #2.17

Wolf Wolfman

• Nominated by bethcat @ #11.13

Great job, Sir Richard Owen, thanks!

I second that! The organization is thoughtful and appreciated, as I imagine Tyler will agree.

American Idle -- nominated by storyartist @ #20

Brian Ford -- nominated by storyartist @ #43.1

lauhal -- nominated by storyartist @ #22

Pamela Drew --- nominated by storyartist @ #23

Viki Gonia -- nominated by storyartist @ #53.5

The others you picked up when someone else nominated them.

I think storyartist has established that many deserving nominees have been omitted, not just the ones starting at comment #47. Not all nominees will be aware that their name was omitted, or such omitted nominees might not want to put their own name into the ring in order not to appear self-promoting, in which case the list would not be somethng upon which Tyler can rely.

SRO... there might be several missing; I recall scar-tissue being mentioned, and there must be others.

It would be easy to miss names with this number of comments, so I still applaud you for your compilation efforts. Thank you!

For instance, Buzz of the Orient was nominated at #74.8 by HydeWhyte.

Global777 nominated:

Pat N, Runner99, jazzman646, vol fan in chatt, tn, tomwcraig. @ #2.18

Simplistic Reality @ #2.28

Sir Richard Owen @ #42

Boudicea, Elaine-1503791, Therese Nelson @ #52

Nominated Global777:

Elaine-1503791 @ #1.7

bore-head007 @ #1.56

Simplistic Reality @ #1.58

Pat N @ #2.19

JM California @ #3.6

Runner99 @ #42.1

Therese Nelson @ #42.2

AZPADDY @ #42.4

If you don't see you're nominee in these 2 comments, please add them in this thread. Include a link to their column.

Continuing...

58Rose

• Nominated by etva @ #41

Al-316

• Nominated by sky dog @ #72

ambivalent

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68.1

Andrew331978

• Nominated by Big Cat-4416462 @ #60

Angela1586572

• Nominated by js-445607 @ #49

Anna-90776

• Nominated by etva @ #41

blaqberrymolasses

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68

Bob Nelson.

• Nominated by nonStitiousZealot @ #48

Brian Ford

• Nominated by storyartist @ #43.1

Buzz of the Orient

• Nominated by HydeWhyte @ #74.8

chitownty

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #70.2

cowboygrandpa

• Nominated by mikebank @ #55

curtonthebeach

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Darrah, Greenville, SC

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68.1

dignitatem societatis

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

dwillie

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68

Emmadadog

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68

Hippocrates of Cos

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

iqbal.latif

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Jalmeno

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

James Essayist

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

John Franklin Mason

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

Jonathan-1917156

• Nominated by mightyj @ #49.12

Josh Rosenroth

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Kate in Greensboro

• Nominated by Shannoscubie @ #57

Kearney Outlaw

• Nominated by Mrs D-1475814 @ #41.4

Killfile

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

krishna-167929

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

kpr37

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Lady Bug

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

larrrs

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Linda Luke

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

luckydog

• Nominated by euterpe-1641499 @ #39

Mike Rupert

• Nominated by euterpe-1641499 @ #39

Moby's ManCave

• Nominated by Big Cat-4416462 @ #60

mstanley2265

• Nominated by euterpe-1641499 @ #39

nonStitiousZealot

• Nominated by me, in this comment

oldfogey

Nominated by Anna-90776 @ #43

Par4TheCourse

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68.1

Plantsmantx

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68

PonGoad

• Nominated by Big Cat-4416462 @ #60

Richard Farmer

• Nominated by Red Wolf @ #32

Santino42

• Nominated by js-445607 @ #56.3

scar_tissue

• Nominated by Darrah, Greenville, SC @ #41.8

Spooky Boyfriend

• Nominates himself? @ #80

Steve Watts

• Nominated by Pat-#@!&!#@ @ #70

SuperSaiyan

• Nominated by easyjjgrand3 @ #68

Tappy McWidestance

• Nominated by AZPADDY @ #57.1

Therese Nelson

• Nominated by Simplistic Reality @ #42.22

The Desert Rattler

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

TiG

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

Tim Boothby

• Nominated by Sir Richard Owen @ #29

Tzia

• Nominated by etva @ #41

VisionCoast

• Nominated by Anatoly-Rex @ #79

Wow , thnx .

You can'r deny the fact that you like me. You really, really like me...

Holy Moly, those are big lists

Great job SRO and the others that helped

PS SRO you are awesome, thanks for getting it started!

Looks like ya need a little more advocation for the humble, old farts and the court jesters

Atsidi The jewelry maker

Dowser All encompassing

Fletch-… Our Hawaiian correspondent

grump i… home is where the heart is

krounded Grounded

RebelGirl It's not about me

shepher… Old but full of life ..watch out ladies!

Hmmm It appears a lot of the real comedians are MIA or banned ???????

Hello..Any comedy writers out there...

G. Bud,

Excellent list.

Disregard. I see McSpocky way up there.

cried

I thought he had been nominated. If not, I nominate him.

believer… Under the radar writer although highly reflective in women's eyes he he I miss ya/luv ya man!

I'd take me off. I may have been here a while, but I haven't seeded/moderated that much... plus I've let some people get away with stuff they shouldn't (even if it was all in fun).

Thank you for the thought though, Darrah.

Nice.. I won't get beat up for double posting. Pssst ..belle42 we still have a date right?

maybe not tonight...still trying to get payroll done by tomorrow :P

Dumping me for a date with money, I knew I shouda went to college.

I nominate belle42 and RN Diane nurse on the front line. after I get slapped around Diane can fix me up.

Thank you to Pat N. for the nomination. If chosen I promise to try really hard to live up to your vote of confidence!

C.K.

BTW, everyone I would nominate has already been tossed to the BETA fish Tyler has constructed but I would add that anyone not specifically named above or below should be considered simply because they have shown the interest in making the Vine a better place just by contributing to this thread alone.

Who better could we find than those around us now?

Thank you to Pat N. for the nomination. If chosen I promise to try really hard to live up to your vote of confidence!

You're welcome! It just makes sense to have you as part of the team. You're analytical enough that you will communicate with others on the team rationally. You are inquisitive enough that you will push every button and check out every feature uncovering potential bugs, you are on the site with decent frequency and you've already shown through some of your articles that you have a sincere desire to see site improvements.

It's a no-brainer to have you on the team. The rest of us would be in good hands if you were. Here's hopin' you get the nod. (tips glass)

I haven't seen Mighty Mouth nominated yet... so I'm tossing his hat into the ring.

And thank you, Neenie... if they select me, i will accept, and now I am nominating you, as well!

neenie

G. Bud

Mightyj

neenie

Perrie (if you can get her back)

Perrie (if you can get her back)

Perrie hasn't actually left-- she's just been a lot less active here since she's busy with her own site. Occasionally she does stop by -- especially to say "hello" to old friends. (See, for example, HERE and HERE).

Speaking of folks that kinda-sorta left, StacyM is one of those that would be an excellent beta tester. I was hesitant to nominate because of the last login date but my sources say she'll be back soon. :)

Hey Krishna-

Yes, but she's also running her own news website/blog these days. We stay in touch outside of NV circles. It would add to her already busy day, I'm sure-that's why I said if you can get her back.

Besides, if we moved NVP to Beta, it'd deprive a lot of folks from seeing your beautiful shots

I don't get it. Why is that?!

Because only people in the Beta group would be able to see, at least I assume so.

tyler, does this mean that seeds made on the Vine will not be seen on the beta version?

Will seeds/articles on the beta version also appear on the Vine? How will that work? Must people in the beta group seed twice for maximum exposure?

Must people in the beta group seed twice for maximum exposure?

Oh no! I don't want to do it if that is the case and I was to be chosen - to much hassle.

Because only people in the Beta group would be able to see, at least I assume so.

That is not an attractive feature. So much to learn.

I wonder if new IS better

Thanks Gary! How sweet of you to think of me!

I always loved to beta test. Did it when they gave us the new homepages. But sadly, yes I am busy as bee, and it wouldn't be fair to NV for me to say yes, when there are others here far more invested. But you are still a doll for nominating me.

((((Perrie)))))

Good to see you, Darling! Hope all is well and the trek to Baltimore is becoming more and more familiar!

Krish,

Yes I am still a member here. Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated, LOL!

((Perrie))

Hi sweety.

Ah. I read ya VBG! Now I get it.

but think of it as two separate websites

Ya broke through the rock pile!

Hi Wheel,

Thanks for the hug! I love to be hugged!

((((wheel)))

Hey does the NNV pay more than .04 per month to contributors?

Don't bother answering.... :-)

Hey Gary,

Oooo...more hugs! Can't get enough of those.

We will be going to Baltimore in the next few weeks to look at dorms. Then we will be "empty nesters". Kind of weird it happening all at once.

(((((Gary)))))

Very cool-hubby back up and back to normal? Huge changes on my end of the state.....

Please remove my name from the nomination list. It wouldn't make me proud to participate, given the recent events with the treatment of Dennis McCann.

given the recent events with the treatment of Dennis McCann.

Wha hoppin'?

For instance, Buzz of the Orient was nominated at #74.8 by HydeWhyte.

Also by Augur Well in comment #7.10

Yes, but she's also running her own news website/blog these days. We stay in touch outside of NV circles. It would add to her already busy day, I'm sure-that's why I said if you can get her back.

Oh OK then.

Too bad, because she'd really be very good at it.

given the recent events with the treatment of Dennis McCann.

How was he treated?

For instance, Buzz of the Orient was nominated at #74.8 by HydeWhyte.

Also by Augur Well in comment #7.10

Sorry, I don't understand the context. It has nothing to do with Dennis.

Sorry, I don't understand the context. It has nothing to do with Dennis

It could be this.

Too bad, because she'd really be very good at it.

You and I are on the same page, Krishna.

This may not be something you can talk about yet, but I am wondering whether the New NV will be a completely different site or a set of privileges assigned to certain users within the existing site (something like past beta programs).

Hey does the NNV pay more than .04 per month to contributors?

There are 'Viners who made well over $100 for the month of November. (I really don't know a lot about this but my guess would that there might actually be some that made $300.00 or more)

This may have been mentioned earlier: I am concerned about the duplicating of seeds that happens unintentionally because the warning does not come up as it should. There seems to be a glitch that sends a completely unrelated article or none at all. Perhaps that could be fixed.

Completely, fundamentally different. I would be shocked and possibly teary-eyed if anything on the newsvine.com domain looks the way it does now at this time next year.

I'm not sure if that makes me happy, or scares the crap out of me. Change is good. And in this case, I suspect it's really good...given your excitement over the "New Newsvine". But change doesn't come easy for a lot of people.

Are the changes going to be so robust that people will no longer have the 'feeling' that they are posting on Newsvine?

Oh...One thing I was wondering about...I really appreciate the authors that put up original content and think it's a shame that 'Top Seeds' get a prime spot on the Newsvine front page while 'Featured Columnists' are buried down in the lower right hand corner. Will that change?

You can move those, Pat. My Featured Columnists is up top right

Holy Crap. I've been here 3.5 years and never had a clue you could do that. I'm gonna go play with it! Thanks for the tip.

Oh...One thing I was wondering about...I really appreciate the authors that put up original content and think it's a shame that 'Top Seeds' get a prime spot on the Newsvine front page while 'Featured Columnists' are buried down in the lower right hand corner. Will that change?

I'm also curious how some of the top seeds are calculated. I thought at one time it was by vote, but often I have seen articles that no one has really commented on. There seems to be some hurdle that new authors need to overcome to get their articles recognized.

To move your modules around, just drag them. To delete a module, click the X in the top right corner of the module box. To add modules, click the "Add a news module" button (it's green) in the top right of the white space below the main header.

You can add a module for anything you have an RSS feed link for. It's pretty cool. I used to have modules for some blogs I follow.

I don't have those boxes.So how can I add a module?

You can move those, Pat. My Featured Columnists is up top right.

I had no idea we could do that. Thanks for the tip.

I just rearranged my whole front page. It's awesome. Columnists are up where 'Top Seeds' used to be, seeds are at the bottom, I added some feeds, took away the local weather thingy...it's beautiful.

Just in time for the change to 'NNV', too. Bummer. lol.

Will it check similar articles put out by different news organizations? I know that is one of the ways people get around the duplicate checker -- one posts the CNN version, another posts the MSNBC version, and another posts the AP version...all of the same event with the exact same wording since the CNN and MSNBC basically are reprints of the AP version.

The duplicate checker also pulls up unrelated/old articles, based solely on the words it searches under. Once I didn't seed an article, only to realize later, when I looked at the seed it referred to in detail, that it was over a year old. Hope that can be looked at as well.

Just adding another POV -- that the different versions seeded by different viners is often a plus. I know when something comes in the news cycle and 1st seed is by someone who is a more lax moderator, or attracts a slew of trolls type moderator, then I wait until someone else grabs a seed from somewhere else, and discuss what I want there. It gives everybody a place where we're more comfortable, for less squabble.

I think there's room for more than one discussion about the same topic.

True, but if you're not one of the more prominent seeders, you can fire the same thing off three hours before one of them does, and no one will see yours, but a hundred people will see their's. It would be nice if the discussions were spread around more.

And thank you, thank you, thank you for the front page pointer. Tidied mine up last night, looks much better!

True, but if you're not one of the more prominent seeders, you can fire the same thing off three hours before one of them does, and no one will see yours, but a hundred people will see their's.

That would have more to do with how many people are on your friendslist and how many people have you on their watchlist...wouldn't it?

Example: There is a Viner that is notorious for seeding and running. They have over 5,000 seeds to their name and they've only been a member since 2009. A look at their friendslist reveals very few people and most of their seeds get very little traffic, save for an exception or two (a recent one being food stamps...a hot button issue).

By contrast, I've seen people put up immensely popular articles/seeds, that seed/write very little, but have a large friendslist and are on multiple watchlists.

That would have more to do with how many people are on your friendslist and how many people have you on their watchlist...wouldn't it?

Oh yeah? I have no idea... that didn't happen to me personally, I just remember a couple weeks ago I stumbled across a good article from someone I didn't know. I left a comment or two, contributed to the dozen or so total. Then I saw the same article a few hours later on the front page from somebody else with fifty comments almost immediately. (Yes, checked the timestamp). I felt bad for the person who seeded it earlier, they should have had that traffic I thought.

Believe me when I say Friends and Watchlist have little effect on traffic generating Front Page prominence. It is more about good timing than anything.

• There is a window of opportunity that is affected by several factors mainly of which are the auto-seeds from AP and MSNBC. Morning, noon, and night they update. In the morning, this usually occurs between 4:30 a.m. and 8:30 a.m., again from around 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. and in the evenings around 4:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. If it is a slow news day, the noon and evening updates will be smaller or not happen at all....Publishing during those times will get you pushed down the list PDQ! So fast sometimes that it will look like you never even posted anything at all!
• .
• The second factor is how many other Viners are seeding material during the hours the "auto-seeds" aren't gobbeling up the front page. If there are many people seeding/writing who DO have a higher "Friends" and "Watchlist" count than yours, you will get bumped down the list quickly.
• .
• Another factor is those who are prolific seeders but poor Moderators. They also will quickly dump a bunch of crap and then ignore it. If you see they have already done their usual bit of dumping on the Vine, then proceed to Seed! If not, wait a little bit to see if they are going to do their thing. Be sure not to miss those "windows of opportunity" I pointed out in the first point!
• .
• Keep this in mind, if you've already posted one article or seed under one of the pages like "Politics" or "Entertainment", only that one will show up. You must wait 24 hours (?) before posting another one otherwise; you are wasting your time.
• .
• And of course the final factor is how many people are following your stuff. Build your "Friends List". Publish good articles. Be nice when Moderating. And above all BE FAIR! We've got enough Moderators here who will delete personal attack comments just because they don't agree with or like the Viner while turning a blind eye to their "Friends" and supporters violations...

Oh yeah, one other thing: Some days the Vine wakes up on the wrong side of the Garden and just HATES you...or at least it does me! X^P

Great stuff. You are good people, CK.

Sshh!!! You are ruining my reputation...

I'll agree with SA here. I don't mind dupe seeds too much.

I also agree.

If you look at a seed as merely a news item (something that usually is about breraking news, or new developments in an ongoing news story) I suppose you could argue that's there's little value in a duplicate post of that.

However, the value in a seed actually comes from two things-- its not just the news story itself. Its also a discussion about the story. And often some of the comments in the discussion are just as valuable as the news story itself. Sometimes even more so.

The comments in two different seeds-- in fact the whole direction of the discussions-- might be very different-- sometimes providing a lot more of value than just one discussion would.

I had that oldie but a goodie cartoon to show about how the man couldn't leave his computer because someone on the internet was wrong, but I had to wipe the post when the link failed to work. Manually adding the http did not work.

Maybe this is something that will get fixed?

Question:

Does having someone on our watchlist generate a tracking?

Thanks Red Wolf! The mud clears more day by day. Soon I'll be looking through Lake Louise glacial water, juuuust in time for New Newsvine.

That sure is some beautiful water, Halifax. I hope that new career works out for you too. The new Newsvine is bound to make life even better too!

Oops! I forgot to mention that. ALWAYS make a comment and ALWAYS vote up your article/seed.

Thanks for reminding me Red Wolf!

Except when it clogs up a group with duplicates to the group..then it's like the first one stays and the second one has to go. Then someone gets aggravated or even mad and drops outta the group. sighhh

First Come, First Served would be a fair rule for Moderators to apply that the Group would understand...

Does having someone on our watchlist generate a tracking?

Sorry CL1 just saw the question. The answer is Yes, it does. It avoids the complications of "friending" them in order to just follow their comments/articles/seeds. To quit tracking them, simply remove them from your watchlist.

RedWolf, I noticed. :)

Thanks, C K!!

I hadn't realized that before... just thought it was a personal list for our own benefit. Now I know why there are so many trackings that caused me to wonder why they were tracked, as I thought trackings only resulted from 'friending.'

Just for clarification...having someone watch listed only notifies you if they have written an article or seeded something, right? In order for them to show up on your convo tracker, they have to be friended??

Ahh, Ok, they have to be friended, too. Thanks to both of you!

Wait a minute, if they are already friended, then what is watchlisting causing that the friending didn't already cause?

Does the friend list only track comments, and the watchlist only tracks articles/seeds??

If so, I didn't know that until just now!

Actually, that's a good point. Friending someone pretty much covers all the bases. Articles, seeds and comments.

I suppose the Watch List would come in most handy when you prefer not to friend someone.

Yes, that's how I've been using the watch list, for the most part.

If someone writes an article and doesn't leave the first comment, then having them watch-listed would pick it up for the tracker, perhaps.

Watchlist also sends you an email, if you have that function turned on. Can't do that with the tracker. You can select on your email notification, from the list there, even if you want just 1 or 2 individuals from your watchlist to generate an email.

Hmmm.. That's interesting. Thank you. I don't use my email, but I have been using the watchlist to remind myself of those not on my friend list.

Go to the bottom of this page where the "leaderboard" used to be accessed. The next tab to the right is "email notification." The settings are there to check your watchlisted users, and your groups are listed. In both cases, this isn't about comments, it's about posting a new article/seed.

Yes, I've accessed that many times; it's pretty handy, isn't it! I hadn't realized it was tracking articles/seeds until the above conversation. Thanks, story.

However, I would be glad to start a group just to test the "beta" if you like. Just let me know

They have a "Beta" group we used for the last beta with the new columns but didn't get used much. Maybe you could take over that one?

why can't people nominate themselves to fill empty spots. Seems to me you want a cross section of Newsvine and lets face it - not everyone is part of the inner circle of Newsvine friends.

On a side note: I agree Jazzman, Pat. N, CL1, Belle42, would be excellent Beta testors. One or two of the others that have been mentioned...hmmmm...may not as much but you do need a mix of people from all levels of the vine.

Thanks, American Dreams.

I'm glad Jazzman has been mentioned. I have a hunch he lurks far more than he lets on, he has a definite attention to detail, and he's got a soft spot in his heart for this site. Even though he may not ever admit it. ☺

American Dreams... I, too, appreciate your acknowledgement, and want to say, "Thank you."